June 14, 2003
Gathering the Dream, The Gathering Dream
(Part 3 of 4-part series)
· Mind memory
· Technique for changing belief systems

Good evening! And welcome to those in form and to those not in form.

It is good to have Joy with us [Kathryn]. Perhaps that is why there was such giddiness? This one that you call Kathryn, the 12 Many Friends, recognize in the tribe as Joy Maker. We are so glad that these others caught up finally to where you are, Kathryn, and now we can press forward with tonight's dialog.

We are preparing to briefly review where we are and where we're going for next week. You will recall that this is the four-part series on Gathering the Dream and The Gathering Dream. The first part involves an individual endeavor, teaching you how to … by the way, did everyone practice their head tapping? Of course you did! We know. We will talk about that more later. Gathering the Dream individually and the Gathering Dream as a mass event and a group endeavor which you will flesh out at next week's Solstice ceremony.

We have, in this process, looked at Gathering The Dream as the bundling of the energy fields or fields of experience as they come together in the thalamus (which is stimulated, given some direction by tapping and sounding and so on). And this then proceeds into the pineal gland, the crystalline fractal, projecting the holographic representation which then the mind interprets through its preceptors as myth, metaphor and magic.

The Gathering Dream, then, is a mass event, a massive gathering of fields of experience that all of you (or many of you in form) have come to this 'now' to facilitate or field. And you will be putting your energies into that next week. For next week's meeting, if you could procure and bring a small little bottle of soapy water that you can stick a little round thing in and blow into and bubbles come out. If you could bring that. We are going to be taking the circle, which we have been completing last year, and turn it into a sphere next week so that the Solstice of last year and this year will be building upon each other.

And you will pass the word as will Lucet so that others in other locations who are following these steps, either through the tapes or through the in-form-ation on the internet, so they can procure (wherever they are at next Saturday's time) a small bottle of this substance. And we will be passing along instructions for the blowing of the bubbles and the creating of the sphere.

For this occasion, let us define some concepts that were begun at our last dialog. Harris was kind enough to ask about 'mind-memory.' And mind-memory, and this is one of those definitions, mark it in your books and so on, so that if you want to reference concept definitions, here's one.

There are many kinds of memory. Mind memory is the accumulation (the coming together, the gathering together, acquiring, pulling towards you and so on) of probable perceptions. Remember, the mind is involved with the sensory preceptors. The mind is involved with probability thinking. So mind memory is accumulating these probable perceptions.

Mind memory is not necessarily put on a timeline. There are timeline memories, there are memories that extend into probable pasts and probable futures. However, mind memory does not require timelines, although it can link itself with these so that you can have a probable perception of a past timeline event. This might be something like you remember when you were 10 years old and this and that, etc. We know that that is but a probable perception. It has no other basis in reality of the now, other than you chose it. You chose it.

Body memory is a little different. Body deals exclusively with the now and the projections of the strands and the feedback of those strands, and here think of your Alex Gray picture and turn it so that it is upside down, and move it around so it becomes more dimensional than merely flat on the paper. The body memory is capable of extending to possible and possibilities. The body can experience the creation. The mind experiences or tends to experience the illusion of the creation. These two, when they are aligned, come into an agreement and infinite knowing is possible. Infinite memory is possible.

There are elements of the self and these elements of the self are directly related to the Dream, the Gathering of the Dream and so on, so let us back up a bit and speak of some of these.

We have said to you a most important factor for you is the statement of What You Want. We have said to you that cause and effect are diminishing in their impact on the constructing of your reality system. In other words, you as individuals, you collectively as creators and consciousness-focused in this now, are realizing or are choosing not to rely so heavily upon cause and effect. You can see this in science, in business, in theology and in your personal lives. And you will see more and more of it as you 'notice' the unfolding of the now. A profound form of memory is the memory awakening in the now. This memory holds the possibility of the strands of all the other memory forms feeding into it and radiating out from it.

We are sensing some confusion.

Group: Laughter.

Peter: It was not our intention to muddy up the water quite this much.

Donna: When I think of memory I think of a timeline, that it already occurred. But that doesn't fit what you are saying.

Peter: That is but one tiny little part, one possible form of mind memory. You also hold mind memories of future. You do not have the confidence in them, perhaps, that you place in what you remember of the past, unfortunately, since they are equal, actually. They are both choices. They are both choice. And as you move further from cause and effect your need to 'believe' in their reality (belief systems being cause and effect related) will free you to realize that memories also on future timelines. Every past and every future is created in the now. You generate from this now your past and your future. You have mind memory of these, you have body memory of these, and your confidence in talking about them may be related to your notion that time is linear, which is cause and effect related. In other words, what happened 1,000 years ago, 1,000 years 1 day ago, 1,000 years 2 days ago, as opposed to from right now creating.

You already have created all of the strands, all of the possible probable strands. It is not as if the ego-identity is given one more task in a life already full. "Oh dear, today we have to create infinite pasts, and infinite futures." These already are created by you. The consciousness or energy essence of you focusing in the now, with this ego-identity and this form, although this form is also a holographic representation in this hologram, nonetheless, the energy essence of you already has created. And from the infinity of its creation, ego-identity …remember each creator gives to its created free will. You, your ego-identity, you were given the marvelous gift of free will. You, then, can choose which past from right now. Which past, which future. You can choose several pasts, several futures. There is a tendency sometimes to choose one past and multiple futures.

We say to you, how you choose is very much a function of Creating the Dream. And how you choose goes back to What Do You Want. A part of What Do You Want refers to back to a dialog some time back when we looked at What Is Enough. A time when ego-identity was challenged to determine What Do You Want in terms of What Is Enough.

Ego-identities tend to see things as money, sex, food, recreation, more money, more sex, more food, more recreation, life fulfillment, more money, more sex, more food, etc. etc. What we say to you is, ego-identities no longer focusing on cause and effect will look at the question, What Is Enough (when have I reached my enough point) and that then becomes a factor in What Do I want.

Removing all this from cause and effect, let us take the example that some of you have asked for, and Lucet ponders upon. Excuse us Sage and Harris, we realize these are not your issues, but perhaps you can couch them in some terms that you will find familiar. Or perhaps we can give a second example or illustration if we are not impinging on the theatrical performance later to come.

Group: laughter.

Peter: Now, Lucet is pondering and has been, how to remove from cause and effect (from deeply rooted in cause and effect) the notion of size or weight. She insists that what she eats and how much she exercises determine her size.

No.

Get over the shock of that. We'll give you a moment, but we must press on.

What determines your size is how much space you decide, you choose, to define yourself in. What Is Enough space for me? It is not a function of what you do or how you live. The aging of your holographic representative, the form, is not a true representation of your ego-identity. It is a representation of an ego-identity rooted in cause and effect with beliefs that say, "As time passes, you will age."

"As you eat more, you will weigh more." Do you see? "As you work harder, you will have more money." Do you see?

We say to you, that is a fine way to play your life, but realize that when it comes down to What Do You Want, an element of that expression, at least a tiny element of that can be outside cause and effect. And that outside cause and effect can be What Is Enough? How much space in the timeline will define me? How much space do I want for myself? There is not a wrong way, or a right way.

When that is spoken for, then you will create, generate, constructs that will fill that bill (so to speak). And yes, sometimes you base this in cause and effect. It does sustain itself, does it not? Let us say you have decided upon this particular space, this particular area. And this is you. If you have a belief that in order to sustain that space, you must have ice cream and candy every day, then you will (even warring with yourself, "I shouldn't do this, it is bad, it is evil."), you will still do it. But it is not what you do. It is not what you do. It is what you choose. It is what you choose, not in terms for cause and effect, but in terms of definition.

Who Are You and What Do You Want. It is that simple. There is not a right way, there is not a wrong way. All we are saying to you is this Gathering Dream, this mass event that is lo and behold upon you (more or less) is not grounded in cause and effect. And in order to notice it, it may be useful for you to give up some of your tight hold on the notion that your world, your timeline, your reality, your own definition of self, that these things are, in fact, rooted in cause and effect.

The Gathering Dream is one for the awakening and the awakened ones. There are cycles. Just as you have a digestive system, let us say, and your digestive system functions in a cycle sort of way. So too, do the cycles of mass events, of human experience, the flow of things. We have mentioned to you the importance of noticing. It is one of your primary signposts in terms of Who You Are and What You Want.

You don't have to figure all this out yourselves, dear ones. You're not in this all by yourselves. You're in it with each other. And each of you has the facility to work with each other in this exploration. The time of no more hiddens has already come upon you. The time of the awakening has already come upon you. You even call yourselves the awakening tribe. So it is no accident that this mass event, the Gathering Dream, the next step in this cycle of the making of the circle into the sphere (and when we say sphere we do not mean a tiny little ball-sphere can have tremendous radius, can it not?). Pi square … you can use your mathematics to infinite proportions if you would like, in calculating just how massive this sphere for the Gathering Dream can be.

So Gathering the Dream as individuals is awakening, it is establishing the knowing of your creativity, and your unlimited nature, even if it seems that this holographic representation is limited and bound by certain rules and exceptions, and so on. Really it is not. Gravity is a generator, it is not some sort of pull-together-push-aparter. Your scientific laws are not acting in terms of the construct of your system anymore. These are shifting into a system in which choice, noticing, choice formation, choice in memory, are the functioners. And the Gathering Dream then, is the introduction to the awakened ones and those who are awakening of the choosings, the choosings.

It is not about right or wrong. It is about free choice. Not choice dependent upon cause and effect.

Is this clearing up for you, or have we still muddied it more and more?

Donna: It sounds very beautiful to me. And I also don't understand it. But it just feels beautiful.

Sage: I see the distinction but I keep falling into the trap of doing which is a cause and effect thing itself.

Peter: Speak more on that. What do you mean? Give us an example.

Sage: All the thought tracks I come up with for not cause and effect, are all based in cause and effect beliefs. I don't have a feeling of flowing in to it.

Peter: Recognize and ease up on yourselves in terms of insisting that your choice be pristine and without any resemblance to cause and effect.

Harris: We're perceiving things and we're responding to them and we're taking actions in response to them. And we're used to labeling those cause and effect. This event occurs and then we do something based on that. It always seems like you can define it as cause and effect. And yet, many of the things that I do now, if I were to be responding in order to have an outcome, I would do something different than what I actually did. I would not do the things that I did. I react or respond to a stimulus and it's kind of almost like … well, I don't think about it. It's almost an instinct, it just happens, and it's an action that feels appropriate. But I'm not looking to have something happen as a result of what I do. It's just the next thing to do.

Peter: And the unspoken question that all of you who are awakening are asking as you are presented with situations, is What Do I Want? And you do something. Now What Do I Want? You do something else. Now What Do I Want? And you do something else. As opposed to, here is the situation. "Oh dear, if I do that then that won't work, perhaps I should do this. No, that would seem wrong to me." Etc. Then you are evaluating, judging and placing in to time your choice. What is unspoken for all of you, Harris, what you were saying about how you are doing, reacting a bit differently, acting and reacting. The unspoken question is What Do I Want Now? What Do I Want Now?

Harris: And even when you ask that question it almost feels like the What I Want is an effect. In other words many of the things that we define in the question of What Do I Want are outcomes. And so, if we have a cause and I ask What Do I Want, and that thing or that response to what I want is an effect, then it seems to be in that same chain. But it is really not because What Do I Want regardless of how I define it, often the thing I do in response to a stimulus doesn't seem to have any relationship whatever to What Do I Want if I'm defining it as an outcome. If I say this is what I want and then I do something that seems to be contrary to an outcome to what I want, that is still what I do. It's like an instinctive response based on the question what do I want and the outcome doesn't seem to be directly related to the action that I take.

Peter: Let us see if we can come at it from a different angle for a moment.

Basically, when you ask and answer the question for yourself What Do I Want, it is a feeling-state. Yes, you put words to it, your mind even paints pictures of it, you hear sounds of it. All your sensory preceptors are involved in constructing what that feeling-state might look like, sound like, feel like, and so on. But What You Want is truly an expression of feeling-state, some feeling. By feeling we are not here meaning emotion or thought, but somehow combining these two and some other elements.

When we say what you are asking before you choose is What Do I Want. It is as if what feeling-state is it that I want.

The feeling-state comes from within you. So you are saying, "Generators inside! We are now looking for feeling-state of X." What happens in the hologram, in the holographic representation, is a play unfolds that provides you with cause and effect, a timeline, sensory preceptors, a myth may have been produced, some magic may have come forward, certainly a metaphor will be expressed, AND you go, "Ahah! I got it."

Harris: And those are all examples of the mind memories regurgitation of things that it remembers have created the same feeling state.

Peter: It's choice of probable perception. It's choice of probably perception.

Harris: Such as, "I want to feel sad, here are some examples of how I have achieved that in the past."

Peter: Exactly.

Kathryn: One of the fundamental lessons I learned from you, Peter, is that our perceptions and our experiences create our belief systems. And our belief systems tend to create reality. And those experiences and perceptions don't necessarily have to be in the holographic state because those perceptions are happening all the time on so many levels. So we can experience things that have never physically happened and they can influence what we believe at the moment.

Peter: Correct.

Kathryn: And those beliefs continue to produce the reality that we experience again. I think one of the questions that we ask ourselves beyond What Do I Want is, "What do I do next?"

Peter: The construct of the belief systems and the role they play is changing.

Harris: Beliefs are rooted in cause and effect.

Peter: Correct, Harris, in that, if this happens then this. Even personal beliefs about who and what you are, are still rooted very much in cause and effect. What you are being called upon to employ now is a different memory, one that will not put you in that perpetual loop of "belief system constructing the reality system, feeding back into the perception which builds up the beliefs, makes little adjustments in the beliefs which then project a different reality system, which feeds back, etc. etc."

That loop is a cause and effect loop. It is grounded in linear time for the most part, although it doesn't have to be. As you say, it can be something that you never personally in your bank of probable perceptions deposited, but you can still draw upon it. You draw upon each other's all the time. When Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, all of you did. All of you did! So you all have mind memory of that experience. And you can pull it into your present space, your identity space, and use it in your holographic representation.

What is changing is that loop is a limited loop. The circle has been expanded to include all such circles, and is now being made into a sphere, as opposed to a two-dimensional circle.

Let us say you have a circle on a piece of paper, and this is the cycle that you were speaking of, which is an effective way to construct a reality system. Would you not agree? It may not get you all that you want, but it hasn't killed you yet.

Group: Laughter.

Harris: Yes, but it is no longer any fun to go around in a circle.

Peter: Could be, Harris, could be.

Points in this flat two-dimensional construct are easy to identify and how they move or even if they move in the flow of this two-dimensional figure, is a probability that you may use in your calculations, or often lose the points as they do not have the impact.

If you take that two-dimensional construct and you move it into a sphere, the points inside then are not locatable in the same way. They are free, they are freer, they are not bound by some sort of connection that is defined by the size of your circle and the way you have your circle function. When you move it into a sphere, you open many more possibilities for how they move, where they move, they are not just on a piece of paper, they are all around.

The shift in cause and effect is a similar shift. You are no longer required to stay in a linear timeline and a spatial relationship to that timeline that you have had to do in the past. If we were to say to you, "When were you born?" All of you could come up with a date, could you not? All of you could come up with a childhood. All of you could come up with an adulthood of sorts. Some of you are young.

Those things that you are coming up with are probable perceptions. They are things that you have chosen to put into your sphere. And allow them to float. What we are saying to you is, there are an infinite number of possibilities of other dates you could come up with, experiences you could come up with. The power of your imagination is not its ability to generate fantasy, it is it's ability to identify more choice. To identify more of the probable perceptions.

Harris: If you want to hang on to the belief system of aging you could do that but also pick a different birthday and the process of aging wouldn't have the same effect on you even if you held on to the belief.

Peter; Correct.

What often plays into that is genetics. You may say, "Well, it runs in my family not to age rapidly." Or vice versa. In which you throw it right back in to cause and effect.

On what do you hook your star? Where do you want to place your choice? And you have the freedom to do it in any way you want. What we are saying to you is, those of you who are planning to participate in Gathering the Dreams and the Gathering Dream, you are those cutting edge ones who are willing to say, "Oh, what the heck! Cause and effect wasn't that important. What if we just tried a few choices without reliance so heavily upon it?"

Your scientists are moving in this direction. Quantum physics depends upon it in a sort of cause and effect way.

Group: Laughter.

Harris: They had to throw out the old ideas because they'd start with a hypothesis and rule out a lot of stuff but could never prove any hypothesis in quantum physics very effectively so they started observing and coming up with the answer without a hypothesis. They stopped expecting things and started observing, started noticing because quarks and all of those things started showing up that had no explanation. They weren't expected to be there, weren't predicted.

Peter: We are not suggesting that you throw it out. Kathryn, you were quite accurate when you gave the cycle for generating the perceivable reality system, the holographic representation based upon beliefs that are generated from experiences which further give confidence to the beliefs which tend to perpetuate and so on. Very much grounded in cause and effect.

There are many who are still choosing and will continue to choose this way of doing. What we are saying is not that you abandon that, but that you add more tools to your tools chest, that you add more toys to your toys chest. So that as you construct the reality system there are many different ways of experiencing and going about it.

You are absolutely correct, Harris, there it is not necessary to do away with anything. It is interesting to apply what works best. Try this, see how it works. If that isn't working for you, you can always go back to what was.

Harris: In regular physics the rules still apply for the most part. The guy who had the apple fall on his head had it right and nothing's changed in the last 400 years since this.

Peter: Um, Newton may disagree with you on that one.

Donna: Could you give a practical example, like a scenario, of the thing that you mentioned earlier about taking up space and size not depending on what is eaten or how much exercise is done. How would an ego-identity would go about making different choices, or changing those beliefs?

Peter: You gave a pretty good example in your question. That pretty well summed it up.

It comes back to the question of What Do You Want. Recognize that the answer to that question is a feeling-state. So that if you come up with, "What I want is Marilyn Monroe figure, and more money (or whatever)." Recognize that those are not answers to the question. From those things then you must say, "And what is the feeling-state of that?" Feeling state, remember, is not an emotional state exclusively. It also involves the mind. It is a mind-body-state. It is a mind-body-state embraced by spirit. You may underline that boldly in your thinking.

That being the case, then when you ask the question, What Do I Want, and you get Marilyn Monroe figure (perhaps we are going too far back in history for that one), then what is the feeling-state? Sexy? Light? Adored? Nurtured? Stroked? Petted? Taken care of?

These are words we are giving you which are not identifiers of feeling-state, but to give you a notion of how to start to move into feeling-state. Allow it to be a kinesthetic experience for you, not merely a verbal, wordy exchange. When you identify the feeling-state that you want, then it is an infinite choice as to what produces that for you. We say to you, it is produced inside you. That is a secret, not tell anyone. It is not found out there. Everything that you want is found inside you.

Now when we say "inside you," we do not mean that you have to split your body open and somehow find it in your guts. "Inside you" means inside your space. And for some of you your space is cosmic in its dimension.

What you Want is a feeling-state. The mind is asking, "What Do You Want?" Remember, the mind is going to interpret it in terms of myth, metaphor and magic, that is the business of the mind. It uses the outer senses to construct stories when you call experience, the mind then uses that experience to build beliefs, and sometimes roots you firmly in cause and effect UNLESS mind adopts a dialog of What Is the Feeling-State We Want? And then from that feeling-state, begin to generate it.

It is the generating of the feeling-state within you that begins to change the nature of the experience outside you without a complete reliance on cause and effect. It is not that you're feeling this THEREFORE you experience it. It is not that are a good person THEREFORE you attract good people to you. It is that you have that feeling-state and your experience will reflect it back to you.

So where do you begin with your inner work? You begin by asking What Do I Want. You may also ask Who Am I. Remember the 12 steps for blissfully happy people, we would refer you to this as it is a good exercise for getting into the inner part of you and examining from that point of view Who Am I. Who Am I and What Do I Want.

It is not 'what do I need,' although needs can be a part of the feeling-state. It is not 'what do I deserve.,' It is not 'what can I have,' 'how far can I go,' or 'what can I get.' It is not in limitation you are asking. You are asking an unlimited question.

Harris: The mind has to ask itself not only What Do I Want, but 'What Don't I Want To Believe Anymore.' Because the beliefs get in the way right up front very often. So answer the question 'what do I want' and then address 'what don't I want to believe' so that I can have what I want.

Donna: Isn't that cause and effect?

Harris: No, that's taking away the cause and effect. Because it is the cause and effect that is in the way, the belief that you can't have it, or that you have to do something specific in order to get it. The beliefs are in the way. Kay's beliefs that what she eats and how she exercises affects her size, that's a belief. So what don't I want to believe anymore, and bring those beliefs out and say, ok, I set aside those beliefs. Or come up with examples of how that is not true. Take it outside cause and effect by finding the contrary arguments that you have never seen before, to neutralize the belief.

Peter: And, Harris, tends to use negatives and double negatives, they work very well for him. Another way to do that kind of healing is to say, "What feeling state do I want and what beliefs are standing in the way of my having them."

Once you begin to identify those beliefs, then it becomes a choice then. "Do I want to focus on the beliefs and allow them to direct the play, the metaphor; or, is it the feeling state, even though in choosing the feeling state I may not have the same notion of the outcome, I may not have the same players in my particular drama." In other words there may be a sense that you are risking or that you are less sure. But those are also feelings and so you would say, "What is the beliefs that are generating these feelings that are standing in the way?" and so on.

And once you begin to look at them then it is a matter of choosing. It is not that you are bound to one or the other. You may select whichever one you want. If you say, "It is hard to give up the beliefs." Then we would say, what is standing in the way of that? You are the one who determines the degree of difficulty of the dive you will do off the high board. It is not determined by some external judge. It is you who determines that. So if you want to make it extremely difficult, you may do so. Or you may also make it extremely easy.

Sometimes ego-identities while they're in the process of moving through this process rely upon practice. Practice, practice, practice. And when we say practice you say, "That's putting it into linear time." Sometimes ego-identities use linear time in the way they would use water to put out the fire if that is what they believe would help facilitate it.

We are not suggesting that you do away with beliefs. We are not suggesting that you replace beliefs. We are not even suggesting that you transform or in some way have your belief systems ascend to some higher angelic level. If that is your metaphor that is fine, but it is not the suggestion here. All we are saying is, there is another choice that you sometimes operate in. And you call it miracles, you call it magic, you call it, "Ahah! What in the world is happening?" But we are saying to you, it's a very ordinary way of doing and being that you have at your disposal that you are now awakening to the full force living of. And that is a world in which choice is not rooted in cause and effect.

Sage: Just relaxing and sort of getting out the expectation because that's always like this-therefore-that. This feels more like just … I can't find the words for it. It's the "not" thing. Whatever is in place of the belief about this-therefore-that is what you do. But "do" gets me back into cause and effect.

Harris: You've got it when you say "this-therefore-". There's no definition of therefore. The definition is "this-therefore-the-universe". Whatever I want.

Peter: One of the byproducts of incorporating this new tool and toy in your tool chest is that it allows you to fill in that blank in whatever way you want. "This ___________ [blank]." So that instead of it being written already, that the 1900s came after the 1800s, you can say, "The 1900s …" and whatever you want to feel. You are not bound by constructs that are already given.

You say, "What will that do to the reality system?" It may seem strange to some just as dream states sometimes seem a bit chaotic and difficult to understand. The search for meaning in everything may shift a bit for humanity, since meaning will be not something you search for but will be an intrinsic part of the feeling-state itself.

It may shift a bit in terms of the massive impact of the Gathering Dream. These Dream Gatherers come upon the cycles of the mass events on occasion and when they do (and here is a metaphor from the 12 many friends) it allows those in form operating in the Now, to shift the nature of the dimensional system. And that is what is occurring in these times and these days. All of you are here to experience and facilitate that. So it is not strange that you are learning of these ways of playing with these notions.

Peter: It is not necessarily that your new way will be murky and less precise. It can be precise. It is that it is not locked in limitation. It is not locked in limitation.

Harris: It's useful to retain some of the signposts so that everybody has reference points for discussions, and memory collection and all that stuff. But, the signposts are not necessary to define existence, but more to share it.

Peter: Let us take an example and play with it. Put your curiosity caps on and we will dialog on this. Let us take an example of a massive concept that generates feeling-states that connects many of you. Let us take the concept of Santa Claus. All of you are familiar with the concept of Santa Claus. It was one that was around on whatever timeline probable perception you want to pick, there would be some record of Santa Claus. Certainly for Lucet, she cannot imagine a life where there is not the concept of Santa Claus. Perhaps that is true for you too.

What is the feeling state of Santa Claus? If you ask a child, their eyes will get big and bright with a big smile. An excitement would build up inside them and they wouldn't be able to contain themselves by sitting still--just the mere mention of the name. We're speaking now of really young, little ones.

As they grow older that changes, doesn't that? Have you watched that? Have you watched a little one grow? Where are you now with the feeling-state of Santa Claus as an adult? It's a nuisance sometimes isn't it? To have to buy and wrap all those things and get them under a tree you have to go hike out in the wilderness to find, and decorate with lights and bulbs. And the lights especially are a nuisance-untangling the lights.

Your notion and your feeling-state around the concept today may be quite different from the concept of a little one. A little one who is perhaps pre-verbal, doesn't know the words, isn't listening to the mind stories, but just tuning in to the feelings of all those around, just feeling the feeling of family, the feeling of safety and love, the joy, hearing the laughter, watching the smiles on the faces, not understanding any of the words. What a feeling-state such little ones must have! And then the joy or perhaps the fright of some of the gifts.

Harris: The physical presence of Santa Claus scares the hell out of most pre-verbal kids.

Peter: Why do you think that is? Why do you think that is?

Donna: I think it is because the child gets thrust into the lap and arms of someone they don't know, and have no relating-ship with.

Peter: It would seem that the feeling-state of the little one while the little one is still learning how to have feeling-states is going to be very much tuned in to what is familiar. And if something really unfamiliar comes along that's a different thing. And would the one dressed up as Santa Claus really be the feeling-state of the notion of Santa Claus. Or would this also be someone wanting to hurry up and get home, and get these little monsters off their lap, and hope this one doesn't throw up or pooh-pooh on this red suit.

So, there are perhaps many explanations for differences in reaction, but the feeling-state of Santa Claus can be one of joy, one of great compassion, one of connection, family, friends, warmth, security. These are words. We understand they are words, but we're giving you some notion of some feeling.

As the little ones grow, however, they come to think of Santa Claus as a time to cash in. It then begins to take on dimensions of cause and effect, does it not? "If you're good, Santa Claus has a list, and you'll get some things. If you're bad, or naughty, you won't!"

In the concept of Santa Claus there is the shifting and the embedding the feeling-state strongly in notions of cause and effect. It then takes on a timeline as you continue to get older. The season comes and goes so quickly you don't even have time to reflect, perhaps, on the feeling states of the really little ones. And perhaps there is some regret and sadness in the season. Perhaps there is not the feeling of connection. Perhaps families have gone and drifted apart. Perhaps the feeling-state that you want around this concept, you do not find anymore.

What happens if you want a particular feeling-state and you are faced with something different than that? What is standing in the way of having those original feelings?

Donna: For me, it is experience.

Peter: Experience of the Santa Claus concept in a different way, with different feelings. And what else?

Sage: Just life. It sort of gets layer upon layer of all sorts of meanings, I guess.

Peter: So what we have here, then, is a concept with a feeling-state when you're very little that is one with seemingly nice words to describe it: joy, compassion, connection, family, warmth, security, etc. But experience that is interacting with this concept over and over and over in a cyclical way changes that feeling-state and provides a block to returning to it? Would you say?

Donna: That's what I would say.

Kathryn: I think there is an innate quality that makes us want to experience Santa Claus as loving and generous. Maybe it takes a long time to have the expectation that it is a nuisance or a way to cash in. I think you can come back to that original feeling.

Peter: Of course, of course.

When you decide what feeling-state you want, you choose it, just as you create you choose it just as you create your past experiences from this moment Now. Your mind-memory, for instance, your body-memory and your embrace by spirit can pick and choose from whatever scenarios you would want to bring. You generate the feelings of Santa Claus from feelings within you.

So there is great truth in the question, "Is there a Santa Claus?" Yes, you are Santa Claus. You are that concept. And however you want to play it is fine. The story that you tell about it in your actions, in your life and so one, that is fine too. There is not a right way or a wrong way.

What we are having you look at is a general concept that is familiar to many people. A mass event sort of thing occurs every year around that time in that this concept comes out. It's called different things in different cultures, but there is generally a spirit of love, a spirit of giving, a spirit of comradeship, or connection. And it is that kind of spirit of Santa Claus that appears in a mass event kind of way around that time each year.

Mass feeling-states, massive "What Do You Wants" also occur. For if the world of human beings, and you are not alone in this, this is true in the plant/animal kingdom, the elements of the heavens, the water, the planets, and so on, all of them have these mass cycles in which they have spirits of this and that that they also conjure and hold dear and experience together simultaneously, and so on. You humans do it in a time frame that is similar. And in doing this you are allowing this mass event, this spirit of Santa Claus (whatever that means to you as individuals, there is a general overview of this that is connecting everyone of you. Can you see that?

Group: Yes.

Peter: It is that kind of Spirit of Santa Claus that the Gathering Dream is. It is impactful because it is not a mind situation. When you say Spirit of Santa Claus immediately you go into your minds and you think about Santa Claus, and you think about what that time of year feels like, you think about past events and experiences. Your body is also aware of that concept. Every cellular consciousness in your form is aware of the Spirit of Santa Claus and each particle of that body memory also has its interpretation of that feeling-state.

When a mass event occurs, there is a great coming together of minds and bodies and spirits. And that coming together doesn't mean that you're all alike. It doesn't mean that you give up free will. It doesn't mean that you cease to be different. It merely means that for time you have agreed to experience the simultaneous probable perception, and the simultaneous possible perception of the entire point of focus. All of your points of focus.

So that is to kind of give you a notion of the Gathering Dream. The Gathering Dream is not interpretable. In other words, we will not say to you it is a dream about love or it is a dream about kindness, or protecting the earth, or get rich quick, or whatever. For it is not about that. It is a feeling-state, a mass event feeling-state that is cycling back your way. And part of the preparation for that is you individually looking at What Do I Want, What is my Space, What is Enough for Me. That gives you some notion of the feeling-states you are generating inside. The tapping on the head to stimulate, vibrate the thalamus which is where the bundled strands of these experience fields (or fields of experience) filter through in the feedback look before going to the pineal gland for projection through the crystalline fractal thus producing the holographic representation which the mind then interprets, plays with, and so on.

You all have minds now that are not locked into explanations that are grounded totally in cause and effect. You now have minds that can choose whatever framework you wish to place this expression that you are projecting. There is great power in this. If Pirate Friend were here we would say great responsibility since Pirate Friend is here to play with that concept. However, we do not need to say that to any of you.

Any generalized mass event on which humanity is embarking is giving you now the freedom to choose the feeling-state and recognize it is not bounded in cause and effect.

Let us use one more example for you. The war in Iraq, or war in general as that one is only one part of much war. Let us just take war as a mass event.

In the Now there is creation by many that on a timeline of experience there is war. You are all familiar. You can say, "Two months ago, three months ago this happened. Five months ago this happened. Three weeks ago this happened." You have the timeline of the history of a mass experience or what you would call a mass event.

We would say it is a part of a Gathering Dream. It is an expression of a Gathering Dream. You say, "Good heavens! That's quite different from Santa. Santa is loving, kind. War is vicious and so on." Do not make judgments and evaluations at this point, we are merely getting you to the point of realizing that you live in a world in which mass events are everyday occurrences. You say, "Why is that?"

We can say, if we must use cause and effect, you have mass media, everyone knows everything. We have said to you there is no more hiddens. Uncovering, awakening, it is a part of the path of the Gathering Dream that all of you have been embarked upon for some of what you would call your time.

The concept of war is but a part of experience that all of you are familiar with. You have your timeline about it. Some of you read about it. Some of you heard about it. Some of you have relatives, perhaps, who participated directly in it and so on. All of you have feelings about it, do you not?

In the Gathering Dream and the concept of war, what is the feeling-state, as we asked you about Santa Claus, what is the feeling-state that you generate inside when that mass event is mentioned?

Donna: I experience sadness and anger. It riles me up in one way. And makes me feel very hopeless in another way.

Peter: So when you are wanting to be riled up you just need to create a little war.

Donna: When I think of What Do I Want, being riled up isn't something that comes up for me.

Peter: Ah! It's not at the top of your list.

Donna: Right.

Peter: So we would say to you, if you are feeling riled up (and we are just using that as an example) then is there some belief around that? Or what is that riled up feeling about?

Donna: That it's wrong, stupid and pointless to fight over things and kill one another. This is my opinion.

Peter: So it is an opinion, a mind-thought, or a …

Donna: It's a belief.

Peter: A belief, Ah! So you have a belief that if people go to war, it is senseless, mindless and they kill each other.

Donna: Yes, it's stupid.

Peter: It is stupid, that is your judgment on it.

So if that is your belief and that belief brings up feeling-states that you are not having at the top of your list in terms of What Do You Want, then in identifying your space, have you in your space identified war recently?

Donna: Not really, other than watching the war on TV in Iraq.

Peter: But you had that familiarity with the one in Iraq.

Donna: Yes.

Peter: So for you, what did that do, watching that war in Iraq?

Donna: It made me feel sad and frustrated and angry.

Peter: So it gave you some feeling-states that were sad and angry and so on. And, these feeling-states, what did they contribute to your space? Think positively!

Donna: It made me really appreciate being in the United States and not having to live with that fear and losing people I love. It made me more appreciative. And it helped me relate better to them because I could understand how they could see America as a big bully coming over and dictating to them. So it made me feel closer to the people. And the stories I saw on TV warmed my heart in terms of seeing the people. It made me feel great compassion.

Peter: So from this event and belief system, and the initial feeling-states, you were given the gift of experience of appreciation and connection and compassion. And are these things that you want?

Donna: Yes.

Peter: Ah! Now we know why we had the war in Iraq!!

Group: Laughter.

Sage: Thanks, Donna.

Peter: We are kidding you.

Harris: It's all your fault.

Peter: If there were cause and effect one could use 'fault' but since that is not what we are using here, we cannot really say that.

Harris: Well you said we didn't have to abandon cause and effect totally so if I choose to use it here then it's ok.

Peter: We stand corrected. For Harris, cause and effect.

So, sometimes the Gathering Dream, the dreams that you gather, are not necessarily scenarios of great lightness and cordiality and friendliness and so on. Sometimes in order to get to genuinely feel those things your particular construct will lead in a different direct.

Harris: It seems like mass events serve one purpose that other isolated events can't, and that is to establish the possibility of connection to more and more of the people around you by giving you a focus that allows you to share yourself, what you think, what you feel and have an exchange with others that allows you to experience more than you would if you were isolated by yourself. So mass events tend to make our connections more apparent and allow us the opportunity to expand, to abandon beliefs even.

Kathryn: You mean connect more to people in our immediate sphere?

Harris: To not just those but the people who were physically present and experiencing the war.

Peter: As far as your imagination can take you.

Kathryn: Going to see a play does that for me. There's so much that I can take in of what is happening in the world, I have to limit it. It takes me to a place I don't want to go.

Peter: What you call primitive people, the ones that live in relative isolation, they still have Gathering Dreams. They group dream. It may be five or six of them as opposed to millions and billions, but they still do it. Two people … when two or more are gathered together there is the Gathering Dream. It is not in the numbers, it is as far as you want to take it.

Kathryn: I can take in this experience tonight and grow more from than watching hours of television, which is a flat type of medium.

Peter: We are taking that as a compliment, thank you!

Group: Laughter.

Harris: We need to take a break.

Peter: We were under the impression that we were to plunge through, but a break sounds good. When we return what we would like to do is have Sage, if you would be so kind, to allow you to get some head tapping practice so that you can begin to feel the feeling-state of the coming together of the bundling dreams, the vibration of the thalamus.

Sage does not have to tap his head. His head is tapped by the beautiful wind.

Enjoy your break.

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Harris: Ok, Peter, we're back.

Peter: Yes. Did you enjoy your break?

Group: Yes.

Peter: Good. Now, we're going to do some preliminary things for preparation next time. First we are going to do these things without a lot of explanation. So if you need explanation, please speak up as we go along.

When you move your body, your form, in the holographic representation, when you put movement into your body, you are changing the fields of experience. As you wave your hand you are influencing the outermost reaches of the cosmos. That is very true as well as its inner impact, you are facilitating bundling of strands, feedback loops, all sorts of things.

One of the movements you can make with your body in transferring the circle (two-dimension), into the sphere (multimensional sphere) is the following: whenever two lines intersect there are constructs that you can do. You can build a metaphor. You can ignore this, you can build upon it, you can proscribe great meaning to it, etc. etc. This could be time, space, whatever. But when the lines cross in the "t" form, then you have changed the field of experience.

So what we would like you to do is first to have the two women, the two ladies, and gentlemen, you watch, if you would take your hands as if they were flat paddles and make a cross sign with them and then move from the cross into the 't' with it. And gentlemen, you watch them do this. You don't have to criticize them, just watch.

And now go back to the cross and when you are doing that, you are in a sense defining space, your space. Your imagination can be used then to fill in that space, create from it. The mind will then create what it wants to perceive of that to tell the story of you. And if you are wanting to remove that from cause and effect, it does not have to have meaning, nor does it have to fit on a timeline. It can simply be.

Next time we will be taking the circle, extending it into the sphere. You will have your bubbles.

You know, in ancient tribes, or in native people, one of the initiations and a very important life skill for them is learning to start fire, make a fire. And they hold the stick and, you have seen them perhaps, they have a stick between their hands. And they are hoping to generate a spark. And sometimes their hands are raw, and they may sit hours and days and weeks until the spark comes. But they sit, and they wait, and they work, and they follow through for this notion of fire is very important to them.

That is what you initiation next week will be like. Only you will be using bubbles instead of a stick. One of the things we will be playing with is connecting the bubbles that you blow, with the bubbles that everyone else blows. That's the one that may take days and weeks. But we are patient and it will be enjoyable. Until your hands are raw of course. And then, who knows.

At any rate, you have been good sports. We have enjoyed having Joy back. Please pass on to Keeper of the Dream that soon a lot of her tasks in that sense will be released for the Dreamkeepers in all of the awakening people are waiting for the time of the Gathering Dream when they can release the elements of the Dream to the members, to all of humanity, all of life, focus. That involves the air, the planets, the animals, the plants, the people, everything. As Many Spirits would say, and Many Winds would chime in, "until the time when all of the bubbles are joined together and form into one."

We are hoping that you will not be discouraged from the Solstice Ceremony which will be coming about next time. Until that time, get rest, care for yourselves. Remember, your only task is to define your space with What Do You Want.

Until we meet again, we wish you well. And good evening.